Tag: Speeches

  • Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Tax Cuts)

    Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Tax Cuts)

    The answers given by Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, at the Liaison Committee held in the House of Commons on 6 July 2022.

    Darren Jones: Prime Minister, how is your week going?

    The Prime Minister: Terrific, like many others.

    Q99 Darren Jones: Did Michael Gove come and tell you to resign today?

    The Prime Minister: I think I said earlier that I am here to talk about what the Government is doing. I am not going to give a running commentary on political events.

    Q100 Darren Jones: Okay. Let’s talk about what the Government is doing. You have just said today that the Government is giving the biggest tax cut in a decade, but it is a tax cut to your own tax rise, isn’t it?

    The Prime Minister: No, what it does is it gives 30 million people—by lifting the threshold, it gives them, on average, a tax cut of £330.

    Q101 Darren Jones: Against the tax rise that you previously announced. In fact, freezing tax allowances for average income tax payers means that they are going to pay £46.8 billion more over the next four years. Tax is going up, not down, isn’t it?

    The Prime Minister: It is certainly true that what we have had to do is make sure we deal with the fiscal impacts of covid. The Committee will remember that we had a colossal fall in output. We had the biggest pandemic for 100 years, and we had to look after people and businesses to the tune of £408 billion. That money doesn’t grow on trees. In order to protect our schools and hospitals, we of course have had to—

    Darren Jones: Increase the tax levels.

    The Prime Minister: We have had the health and care levy. What we are doing now is helping people with, on average, a £330 tax cut.

    Q102 Darren Jones: Prime Minister, I asked about the tax cut that was announced today, but I will move on. Let’s look at the economy before the pandemic. You mentioned the pandemic—an event that was very difficult for the Government. Before the pandemic—between 2010, when the Conservative party came into office, and the pandemic—national debt increased by £640 billion. It is now at 100% of national wealth, and you keep announcing tax cuts and spending plans at the same time. Are you just going to keep putting more and more debt on to the nation’s credit card?

    The Prime Minister: Sorry, you were just complaining about taxes going up.

    Darren Jones: I am asking about what you are doing in government, Prime Minister.

    The Prime Minister: You need to get your story straight.

    Darren Jones: My facts are from the Treasury, Prime Minister. Debt is up.

    The Prime Minister: We have to be sensible and we have to be responsible. We are making sure we manage the public finances in a prudent way, and I think that there will be scope for further tax cuts in due time.

    Q103 Darren Jones: Maybe imminently. Prime Minister, can I move on to economic growth? You said yesterday that you welcomed your new Chancellor, Nadhim Zahawi, because he would grow the economy, presumably in a way that Rishi Sunak couldn’t.

    The Prime Minister: I don’t think I said that. Anyway, go on.

    Q104 Darren Jones: We are more likely to end up in a recession this winter, aren’t we?

    The Prime Minister: As I was saying to Stephen, the economy and people are going to be under a lot of pressure, but I think we will get through it.

    Q105 Darren Jones: Do you think there will be a recession in the winter?

    The Prime Minister: I think there will be a lot of pressure caused by the price spike. We are going to do everything we can to shield people and deal with the underlying causes of inflation, whether that is through the energy markets, the labour markets or whatever. There is a lot that we can do, and I think we will emerge stronger on the other side.

    Q106 Darren Jones: You and your supporters have often said that you have got all the big calls right as Prime Minister, but actually on tax, debt, growth and pay, things have been getting worse, not better. I understand that 14 million people voted for you in 2019; you have let them down, haven’t you?

    The Prime Minister: No, I think that what they can see is a Government that gets on relentlessly with a programme of uniting and levelling up. We have the biggest investment in infrastructure for a century—£650 billion going in on all the things that Huw was talking about: roads, rail, transport of all kinds and housing. It is a colossally ambitious programme that we are still doing. At the same time, because, as you put it, Darren, we got the big calls right—

    Darren Jones: I didn’t agree with that, by the way.

    The Prime Minister: Well, I’m going to agree with it even if you don’t. We got the big calls right on covid. We came out of lockdown faster, and we got it right with the vaccine. That has put us in a position to look after people, and that is what we are doing.

    Q107 Darren Jones: Thank you. I’m going to move on to my next question. I would like to read something out to you: “When a regime has been in power too long, when it has fatally exhausted the patience of the people, and when oblivion finally beckons—I am afraid that across the world you can rely on the leaders of that regime to act solely in the interests of self-preservation, and not in the interests of the electorate.” Who authored that quote?

    The Prime Minister: You are trying me. Was it Cicero? Was it Aristotle? Let me think—was it Plato? Was it Montesquieu?

    Q108 Darren Jones: Maybe Nero. Just to break it to you, it was you, Prime Minister. Perhaps it was foresight. I will finish, because I am about to run out of time. I made a joke there, but in all sincerity—I know this must be difficult for you personally—this isn’t funny. This is not a game. People are struggling across the country. It is not brave for you to carry on doing this. I think, in my view, you are hurting the country, Prime Minister. On a very human level, surely you must know that it is in the country’s interests for you to leave now.

    The Prime Minister: I think the country is going through tough times. You are making a point about duty, right? I look at the issues this country faces, I look at the pressures that people are under and the need for Government to focus on their priorities—which is what we are doing—and I look at the biggest war in Europe for 80 years, and I cannot for the life of me see how it is responsible just to walk away from that, as I said earlier on in PMQs, particularly not when you have a mandate of the kind we won two or three years ago.

  • Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Fuel Duty)

    Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Fuel Duty)

    The answers given by Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, at the Liaison Committee held in the House of Commons on 6 July 2022.

    Huw Merriman: Turning to another area of policy that perhaps needs to change, at the moment 4% of the Exchequer’s revenues come from motoring taxes. Those will plummet to zero when we all drive electric vehicles. Are you serious about getting a new form of road pricing policy in place to fill that hole? If not, how will it be filled?

    The Prime Minister: Road pricing is something that we will eventually have to consider. I’m not attracted to it. I seem to remember that I successfully campaigned to remove the western extension of the congestion charge in London.

    Q89 Huw Merriman: I am not talking about road charging in that way; I am talking about—as we do at the moment—charging people per mile they drive, because that is what fuel duty does. You will have to replace that.

    The Prime Minister: I see what you mean—for electric vehicles as well, so that you charge a mileage.

    Q90 Huw Merriman: Yes, something along those lines.

    The Prime Minister: It is certainly the case that we will need a substitute for fuel duty.

    Huw Merriman: This comes back to my point about policy delivery, because—

    Chair: I am astonished. This is imminent. We are introducing electric cars.

    Q91 Huw Merriman: May I finish, Sir Bernard? For three months, Prime Minister, No. 10 has had a recommendation for a working body just to look at this, because something has to fill the 4%. The Treasury signed off on it, and for three months it has been sat in No. 10. One week, I am told somebody has signed it off; the next week, someone else has looked at it and stopped it, and it is stuck. My question is: the inertia inside No. 10—perhaps because of the events that we will go on to talk about—

    The Prime Minister: Nonsense.

    Q92 Huw Merriman: You say it’s nonsense, but it is a nonsense that we have been waiting three months just for someone to sign off on something that fills 4% of the Exchequer—that is the nonsense. Do you not agree that something should be done? If you can’t do it, do you think that perhaps someone else could come in and run it properly?

    The Prime Minister: This No. 10 was actually the first Government in Europe to set a timetable for moving away from internal combustion engine cars by 2030.

    Q93 Huw Merriman: I know. That is why you should follow through on the consequences of it.

    The Prime Minister: We have been moving at blistering speed. We are looking at all fiscal proposals to replace fuel duty, and I am happy to come back.

    Q94 Huw Merriman: You’re not. You are actually currently sitting on all proposals.

    The Prime Minister: I cannot believe that the Treasury is showing the slightest hesitation or reluctance to find a new way of taxing motorists.

    Q95 Huw Merriman: That is my point. The Treasury signed off on it. No. 10 then insisted on looking at it and has sat on it for three months. I think Andrew Griffith is currently the one who has now said, “No, I don’t like this.” We are therefore stuck, having thought we had cleared all the hurdles.

    The Prime Minister: I will take it up with Andrew.

    Q96 Chair: I was shadow Transport Secretary in 2000, and road charging was seen as the future then. Successive Governments have dodged it, but why is your Government dodging it when you are already abandoning the revenue stream from hydrocarbons?

    The Prime Minister: Sir Bernard, why do you think we necessarily are? We have got to find a way of filling the gap left by fuel duty.

    Q97 Chair: You have actually got a target for eliminating fossil-fuel cars, but you have not got any plan in place to replace the revenue.

    The Prime Minister: I think it highly unlikely that the Treasury will let any opportunity go to substitute revenue from motoring. What we want to do is, for the purposes of the environment, to encourage the take-up of low-carbon vehicles, and that is why the fiscal strategy is framed as it currently is. That is what we are doing for the time being.

  • Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Airport Delays)

    Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Airport Delays)

    The answers given by Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, at the Liaison Committee held in the House of Commons on 6 July 2022.

    Huw Merriman: In the six minutes I have, Prime Minister, I want to talk to you about transport policy delivery—if you’re focused. I want to talk about rail, air and also road. Starting with rail, do you have all of the policy, and legal interventions and levers, that you need to end this rail strike?

    The Prime Minister: Thanks very much, Huw. I call on the union barons and the railway companies to sort this out. I think that they should be able to do it. And I think that, yes, we probably do need a few more tools.

    Q80 Huw Merriman: Specifically, what would they be?

    The Prime Minister: I think that you could have minimum service levels; you could have ballot thresholds. And as you know, we are bringing in—I think we have already brought in—the provision for agency workers where that is necessary.

    Now, that is not going to fix problems like train drivers; you are not going to get agency workers to drive a train. But the argument that I would make is that you need to modernise.

    Q81 Huw Merriman: Let me again just focus on the levers, because I think that in the Conservative manifesto there was a line that said, “Only the Conservatives could get Brexit done”, a few more things, “and stop passengers being held hostage by the unions.” And that was with the introduction of that policy of minimum service levels. Yet that hasn’t been introduced.

    The Prime Minister: It has not, but—

    Q82 Huw Merriman: And people are being held hostage, which might be your view. Why did you not bring, with an 80-seat majority, that legislation through before the strikes started?

    The Prime Minister: That is a very good question. And—

    Q83 Huw Merriman: And the answer is?

    The Prime Minister: And the answer is: we should have done it. The trouble was that we had a lot of covid stuff to deal with and I’m afraid it got pushed to the right, and I regret—

    Q84 Huw Merriman: I thought you might say that, although there have been other things we have been able to do, notwithstanding covid. Okay, let me move on to airports. There has been massive disruption to the airports—people having their holidays cancelled at the last minute. Why wasn’t more done to stop airlines from putting more flights in place than they had the bandwidth of staff to deal with?

    The Prime Minister: Well, the airlines should not be abusing passengers in the way that they have been, and I think there should be greater protections. But I think the—

    Q85 Huw Merriman: But again, this is all, “There should be”. My question is: why hasn’t there been?

    The Prime Minister: Because basically, we were trying to get any airlines flying at all. I mean, Diana has asked a very good question about passports, where we’re putting huge numbers of people to try and speed up the delivery of passports. We had a situation in which no airlines were moving at all. And we had to put £8 billion—as you will remember, Huw—into supporting the airline industry.

    Q86 Huw Merriman: Indeed. But Gatwick, for example, has controlled the number of flights that will be able to fly out during July and August, because they can see the airlines are trying to fly at 2018 levels. They could see the number of staff coming on, so they have taken action. Other airports haven’t necessarily. The regulator—the Civil Aviation Authority—doesn’t have the power, up front, to implement these types of policies. Shouldn’t it have that power?

    The Prime Minister: I am willing to be persuaded that it should.

    Q87 Huw Merriman: Because when we put a report on that basis, the recommendation was rejected by Government on the basis that there wouldn’t be a proposal to give the regulator up-front powers to take action, including to help with compensation. Perhaps we can push him a bit more on that, if you are behind it—

    The Prime Minister: Huw, I am going to have to look into what more powers we might need to take to get the airlines to behave responsibly towards their passengers. But I think the experience of the public is pretty wretched at the moment for all sorts of reasons, and they need to do much, much better.

  • Keir Starmer – 2022 Keynote Speech on a Fresh Start for Britain

    Keir Starmer – 2022 Keynote Speech on a Fresh Start for Britain

    The speech made by Keir Starmer, the Leader of the Opposition, in Gateshead on 11 July 2022.

    Good morning, everyone.

    Three days ago, my focus was on the immediate past.

    On the importance of leading with truth and integrity. On the difficult times our country faced in lockdown. And on the fact that those who make the rules shouldn’t break the rules.

    I set out my position on that question.

    And the difference between me and the Conservative Party now desperately trying to launder its integrity. Even as it stood by an unfit Prime Minister to the bitter end.

    Today I want to put my focus where it ought to be.

    Where it will be every day between now until the next General Election. On the future. On the sort of nation that Britain can be and the sort of nation Labour wants it to be.

    Because at the moment Britain is stuck.

    Stuck with a tanking economy.

    Stuck at home unable to get a passport or a flight.

    Stuck on the phone trying to book a GP appointment.

    Our taxes are going up.

    Food and energy bills are out of control.

    And many of the public services that we rely on have simply stopped working.

    Britain deserves better than this.

    We need a fresh start.

    And I know you expect me to say this but we won’t get that, from a Conservative Party infected with the chaos virus caught from Boris Johnson.

    Only Labour can reboot our economy and end the cost-of-living crisis.

    Only Labour can revitalise our public services and re-energise our communities.

    Only Labour can unite the country and clean-up politics.

    These three tasks will define my Government.

    Because until we address them, we leave ourselves vulnerable to the shocks and crises we have endured this past, long decade.

    Yet the way I see it, the challenges we face – climate change, technology, an ageing population – are an opportunity to re-energise Britain.

    Some nation is going to lead the world in new nuclear power.

    Why not this one?

    Some nation will create the first generation of quantum computers.

    Why not us?

    Some nation will design medicines personalised to match our unique DNA.

    Why not Britain?

    This determination to move Britain forward is what drives me.

    Britain should be a confident and prosperous nation.

    But at the moment it’s full of people worried about the next bill coming through the letterbox.

    Take Zoe, from Sunderland, just down the road.

    Like many people, Zoe’s gas and electricity bills have doubled.

    She says:

    “I’m struggling to get by. I haven’t managed a full shop for food in over a month. The cost of living is scaring me and the future looks terrifying”.

    I’ve been up and down the country a lot recently – it’s one of the good things about this job.

    And let me tell you:

    I’ve heard a version of Zoe’s words from almost everyone I have met.

    Her words reflect the reality facing millions of working people in Britain right now.

    People like my family.

    I didn’t come from a privileged background.

    My start in life was completely ordinary.

    Dad was a tool-maker. Mum was a nurse. Our house was a pebble-dashed semi and we had a Ford Cortina – this was the 1970s!

    But I owe everything – all my values – to my upbringing.

    My work ethic and dedication to public service.

    But the real gift my parents gave me was the opportunity to get on.

    And that is why I came into politics.

    I have been lucky enough to take a journey through my life.

    From a working-class family to head of the Crown Prosecution Service.

    So when I say I don’t want anyone in this country held back by their circumstances – you know it is not just words.

    It’s why – for me – the state of our economy is personal.

    Because when people like Zoe are so scared of the future.

    When our economy is so wracked by low growth and insecurity – then working people get stuck. And that means Britain gets stuck.

    The most important goal of my Labour government will be to grow the economy.

    And we will not accept growth that doesn’t improve people’s lives.

    An economy can grow and leave some of its people behind. But a nation cannot grow in that way.

    Not long ago I was in Burnley and was left in no doubt by the people I met there.

    They all had great ambitions, for themselves and their town.

    But they don’t have a government that shares that ambition.

    Boosterism and wishful thinking are not the same as ambition.

    If you don’t have a plan to make your hopes real, all you are selling is an illusion.

    The other thing my background gives me is impatience.

    If you are born without privilege, you don’t have time for messing around.

    You don’t walk around problems without fixing them.

    Or surrender to the instincts of organisations that look to preserve themselves rather than modernise.

    So, believe it or not, I’m not that interested in the political game.

    The daily saga of who is up and who is down in Westminster. No, not even this week or last.

    I’m impatient to get things done.

    I can see what is wrong with Britain and I want to fix it.

    It’s what I have done with our own party.

    When I took on this job in April 2020, I knew we had a big task before us.

    We had to change our party and prepare for power all in one go.

    Not change for change’s sake, but change with a purpose: to remake a Labour Party that understands its purpose is service, not self-indulgence. Country first, party second.

    That’s why we had to root out the antisemitism which had infected our party.

    That’s why we had to show our support for NATO is non-negotiable.

    Show that we want business to thrive and prosper and shed policies that won’t work.

    The Labour party was stuck. Stuck in opposition. Stuck licking its wounds after four painful defeats.

    Of course, we still have more to do, but now Labour is moving forward again.

    That is what I will do for Britain – and I will do it with a plan to tackle the three biggest issues we face.

    1. Rebooting our economy and ending the cost of living crisis

    2. Revitalising our public services and re-energising our communities

    3. Uniting the country and cleaning-up politics.

    Let me start with the economy.

    I’ve explained why this is personal.

    How my mission in politics cannot be achieved unless we get our economy growing again.

    So let me tell you now: Labour will fight the next election on economic growth.

    The first line of the first page of our offer will be about wealth creation.

    We will show how a Labour economy based on partnership and contribution can make Britain richer.

    And we won’t retreat to a comfort zone on public services and hope the focus of the country shifts.

    Many of our plans are already in place.

    Our strategy to buy, make and sell more in Britain.

    Our five-point plan to reform the Northern Ireland protocol and make Brexit work.

    Our Climate Investment Pledge that invests £28bn a year to help us win the race for the next generation of jobs.

    Gordon Brown is looking at new forms of economic devolution for us, so that every city, every town, every place has the chance they deserve to contribute to our economy.

    David Blunkett is leading a skills commission made up of entrepreneurs, business leaders, and policy experts.

    Whilst Lord Jim O’Neil is looking at how we can make Britain the best country in the world to start a new business.

    And never forget it was Labour who pushed so hard for a windfall tax on energy companies to help those struggling with their bills.

    In the weeks ahead, I will say more about how an economy based on partnership and contribution works, and how it can grow us out of the cost-of-living crisis.

    But let me say here why I think only Labour can deliver for Britain – whoever emerges from the chaotic circus now playing out in Westminster.

    Because the task as I see it, is to create an economy that is strong, secure, and inclusive.

    One that is resilient to the shocks of an uncertain world – which doesn’t just create jobs, but good, well-paid secure jobs.

    And growth that does not harm society or peoples’ lives or trash the public finances.

    I cannot believe what we are hearing from the candidates to be the next Tory leader.

    The Tory leadership race hasn’t even officially begun yet but the arms race of fantasy economics is well underway.

    Over the weekend, the contenders have made more than £200 billion worth of unfunded spending commitments. Let that sink in.

    That’s more than the annual budget of the NHS, splurged onto the pages of the Sunday papers, without a word on how it’ll be paid for.

    And on taxes, the vast majority of them served in Boris Johnson’s government.

    They went out every day for months and years to defend his behaviour.

    They backed every one of his 15 tax rises.

    They’re behaving like they’ve just arrived from the moon.

    They nodded along and trooped through the voting lobbies to support them.

    Now, it turns out they were opposed to them all along. The hypocrisy is nauseating.

    When I say decency and honesty matter, that includes being honest about how we fund every single thing we promise.

    It’s why when I say we have a plan for investing in education, I also say it’ll be funded by closing the VAT loophole for private schools.

    Or when I say we need to sort out mental health treatment in this country, I also tell you that we’ll do it by closing tax loopholes used by private equity.

    Politics means tough decisions.

    It means being frank with the public.

    It doesn’t mean tossing out tens of billions of unfunded spending commitments just to play to the gallery of Tory MPs and members.

    But it also means being frank with your own party.

    I don’t believe you can achieve a strong economy with just a tired formula of deregulation and tax cuts.

    But nor do I believe you can achieve it if all you have is redistribution and public sector investment.

    Most of all, I don’t think you can achieve it with the false choice running through the Government’s levelling up agenda – of north versus south, city versus town. That’s not partnership.

    We need every community to make a contribution to growing national prosperity.

    We can’t have people like Zoe stuck.

    That is what the Conservative Party doesn’t understand about the modern economy.

    They don’t believe in partnership. They don’t believe you need state and market, business and worker, the everyday economy and the technological frontier – all working together for a strong, secure and inclusive economy.

    But we can’t do that without first-rate public services.

    That’s the second big challenge where only Labour is the answer.

    Every Labour government inherits the same task from the Tories – to revitalise neglected public services.

    It will fall to us to do the same again – and we will.

    It is not just a social justice issue, it speaks directly to the type of economy we want to build.

    We saw that in the pandemic.

    Close public services like childcare, schools, GP surgeries and look at the impact on productivity.

    When we push forward with our plans to make sure everyone can access mental health treatment within one month, when we recruit 8,500 mental health professionals, fully-funded by closing a tax loophole on private equity – this is an investment in the economic strength of the country as well as the health and wellbeing of our communities.

    Or to take another example, hundreds of thousands of people over 50 have left the labour market since the pandemic.

    A million more people are out of work on benefits.

    The biggest drop in the employment rate of the major G7 economies.

    And as Jonathan Ashworth (Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary) is setting out today, we will reform employment support to help people get back into work.

    But, reforming public services can’t just be a question of investment.

    We will also need to think imaginatively – about how technology is expanding the range of what is possible to do, about how we can put people in control of more personalised and responsive services.

    This means we have to think differently about the purpose of each of our public services.

    In health it means finally making good on the promise to prevent illness, not just cure it when it happens.

    In education it means not just imparting knowledge, but developing the creativity, resilience, curiosity, and problem-solving abilities of every young person.

    In social care it means giving people a better quality of life and paying for it in a way that is genuinely fair.

    And in tackling crime, it means developing neighbourhood crime hubs that can prevent crime and build community cohesion rather than reacting when things go wrong.

    Each of these would mean big strategic changes to the way our public services work.

    And allow more people to fulfil their ambitions free from illness or insecurity.

    This leads me to the third defining task of my Government.

    Re-energising communities, uniting the country, and cleaning up politics.

    A Labour government will bring people back together.

    I am tired of our divisive politics. We have a government with no understanding of how to grow the economy or reform our public services.

    So it creates division to set us against one another and distract from its failures.

    Some people say to me “this is politics now”. Division is how you win.

    Let me be clear: I want no part in that.

    If this is what politics has become, then we will change politics.

    We’ve already set out plans to clean up Westminster.

    Under Labour there won’t be any MPs lobbying for their friends, but a Labour Britain will be one where we celebrate who we are.

    One which embraces both our differences and what we have in common.

    There will always be issues that divide us, points of disagreement, there is nothing wrong with that, that’s democracy.

    But even in a robust democracy, it is vital we settle those disputes in a civilised way, that we play by the rules.

    That’s the reason I took the action I did when faced with those allegations in Durham.

    I wanted to show that politicians will risk their careers on matters of principle.

    That we are not, as so many people in this country believe, only in it for ourselves.

    And that I am committed to the values which earn Britain respect all around the world – fair-play, respect for difference, the rule of law.

    Labour will end the era of divisive politics and clean-up Westminster.

    And show we are the self-confident, forward-looking, optimistic United Kingdom, I know we can be.

    I don’t think it’s too hard to describe what people want from politics.

    The mission I’ve set out today certainly isn’t complicated.

    I don’t want anyone in this country to be held back by their circumstances.

    And I want to get Britain moving again, so we can once more face the future with confidence.

    I have talked today about why that mission is personal to me.

    And I have talked previously about the moment I knew I needed to leave the law and go into politics.

    About the daily injustices I saw as Director of Public Prosecutions.

    Important examples are etched on my mind, for example, when we failed to deliver justice for Jane, the daughter of John and Penny Clough.

    Over the last few weeks, I have thought a lot about that.

    Thought about the nature of rules and how you change them.

    But what I thought back then, is what I still think now.

    There is no substitute for politics when it comes to tackling injustice and changing this country, and change is what my Labour Party will offer at the next General Election.

    We will give Britain the fresh start it needs – we will reboot our economy, re-energise our communities, revitalise our public services, unite the country, clean-up politics, and end the cost-of-living crisis.

    Thank you.

  • Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Meeting with Alexander Lebedev)

    Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Meeting with Alexander Lebedev)

    The answers given by Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, at the Liaison Committee held in the House of Commons on 6 July 2022.

    Dame Diana Johnson: My final question. Could you confirm—I would appreciate a yes or a no—that you met former KGB officer Alexander Lebedev without officials when you were Foreign Secretary on 28 April 2018?

    The Prime Minister: I would have to check.

    Q42 Dame Diana Johnson: Are you having a lapse of memory again?

    The Prime Minister: No. You are asking me a very specific question about a very specific date. I would have to get back to you. I certainly have met the gentleman in question—

    Q43 Dame Diana Johnson: Without officials?

    The Prime Minister: He was the proprietor of the London Evening Standard when I was Mayor of London. I am certainly not going to deny having met Alexander Lebedev. I certainly have. As far as I remember, he used to own the London Evening Standard.

    Q44 Dame Diana Johnson: Yes, but with officials when you were Foreign Secretary. Did you meet him with officials or without?

    The Prime Minister: Look, I have certainly met him without officials. As I say, he is a proprietor of a newspaper.

    Q45 Chair: Perhaps you could write to us with a specific answer to that very specific question.

    The Prime Minister: Very happy to.

    Q46 Dame Meg Hillier: Can I just follow that up, Prime Minister? You said you met him without officials. Presumably that was when you were Mayor of London. When you were Foreign Secretary, did you meet Alexander Lebedev without officials?

    The Prime Minister: I think I probably did, but—

    Q47 Dame Meg Hillier: Probably did?

    The Prime Minister: As I say, I would need to check.

    Q48 Dame Meg Hillier: You are used to regularly meeting him? “Probably” because you meet him often or “probably” because you can’t remember?

    The Prime Minister: I have met him on a very few occasions—

    Q49 Dame Meg Hillier: As Foreign Secretary?

    The Prime Minister: On the occasion you mention, if that was when I was Foreign Secretary, then yes.

    Q50 Dame Meg Hillier: Without officials?

    The Prime Minister: Yes. That makes sense, yes.

    Q51 Dame Meg Hillier: Did you report to your officials that you had met him?

    The Prime Minister: I think I did mention it, yes.

    Q52 Chair: And where did you meet him?

    The Prime Minister: I met him in Italy, as it happens, but I really, you know—

    Chair: Perhaps you will write to us.

    Dame Meg Hillier: Was it a personal engagement?

    Chair: We will move on.

  • Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Visa System For Ukrainian Refugees)

    Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Visa System For Ukrainian Refugees)

    The answers given by Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, at the Liaison Committee held in the House of Commons on 6 July 2022.

    Dame Diana Johnson: Thank you. Good afternoon, Prime Minister. A few weeks ago, I met a group of Ukrainian MPs who had travelled to the UK via the Republic of Ireland. Like every other country, the Republic of Ireland, for Europe, doesn’t require a visa. They then travelled up through the common travel area. They didn’t have anything checked. They were raising with me whether it was a sensible decision to allow such a bureaucratic visa system for Ukrainians fleeing Ukraine—if it was a sensible use of resources. As we know, it has compromised the capacity of the Home Office. What do you say to that?

    The Prime Minister: I hear you loud and clear, Diana. I think that the argument that has been put me is—well, two things. First of all, we have got to be careful that we are able to screen people properly and—

    Dame Diana Johnson: Yes, but these people are coming up through the common travel area; there’s no screening.

    The Prime Minister: I accept that, and I accept the limitations of screening, but on the other hand, you’ve got to look at what we have done so far: 135,000 visas have been issued, and I think that the record is getting better and better. The UK is hosting a lot of Ukrainians, and I think we should be very proud of that.

    Q32 Dame Diana Johnson: Okay. Perhaps I will come on to the problems with the Home Office and, as I have just alluded to, the capacity issues of the Home Office when they designed a whole new visa system. Why is it that British people are waiting so long to get their passports when we all knew there was going to be a surge in passport applications after covid, with people wanting to travel, have family holidays, get married abroad, and all of those things? Why is it that we’ve ended up with people waiting so long and having to spend so much time and money to get a passport?

    The Prime Minister: It is very frustrating, and I share everybody’s frustration. I think the answer is that the demand has been very big because people are very keen to go on holiday—

    Q33 Dame Diana Johnson: But this isn’t rocket science; you knew this.

    The Prime Minister—and we’ve rushed people into the Passport Office—

    Q34 Dame Diana Johnson: But why are we having to do that? We knew this was happening.

    The Prime Minister—and the numbers are starting to improve. I think, from memory, 91% get their passport within four to six weeks.

    Q35 Dame Diana Johnson: Well, the standard that the Home Office is supposed to operate on is three weeks. It is now 10 weeks. When will it go back down to three weeks?

    The Prime Minister: Well, I don’t know when it goes back down to three weeks, but I think that what I have in my head is that 91% get their passport within four to six weeks. I would urge everybody who is thinking of going away four to six weeks from now and hasn’t got a passport to get a passport.

    Q36 Dame Diana Johnson: Okay, so the bread-and-butter issues just aren’t being looked at by the Home Office and dealt with in a very good way. Why is it that your Government now have a backlog of 89,000 asylum claims that they have not decided? Why has that happened?

    The Prime Minister: Well, the UK has historically had very large numbers of asylum claims—

    Dame Diana Johnson: They’re stable.

    The Prime Minister—and I seem to remember that there were many, many thousands of asylum claims left un—

    Dame Diana Johnson: It is incorrect, Prime Minister.

    The Prime Minister—undecided when the last Labour Government left office.

    Q37 Dame Diana Johnson: No, Prime Minister. The asylum claims in this country have remained fairly steady in the last few years, so your Home Office has built up a backlog of nearly 90,000 claims they’ve not decided. Can I just ask you, then, why is your Government so bad at actually sending back failed asylum seekers? In 2010, we sent back 10,663; last year, we sent back 806 failed asylum seekers. Why?

    The Prime Minister: Diana, I don’t think that it’s the fault of the officials; I think they do their level best. I don’t think it’s that they’re so bad; I think it’s that our brilliant legal profession is so good at finding reasons why they should not be returned.

    Q38 Dame Diana Johnson: That’s your answer? It is not to do with the fact that you have not been able to enter into agreements with other countries and you have not got a replacement for the Dublin agreement?

    The Prime Minister: My—

    Dame Diana Johnson: No? Okay.

    The Prime Minister: If you look at what happened with the Dublin agreement, that broke down across the board. Returns agreements have been extremely hard to strike.

    Q39 Dame Diana Johnson: Well, let’s put it this way. You said about 20 people came across in small boats across the channel last year—20—and there were 28,000 who came. On the civil service cuts that you talk about—the 20%, 30% or 40% cuts—will that help the Home Office get to grips with some of these problems, or will it make the situation worse?

    The Prime Minister: I think that certainly what you need when you talk about the asylum seekers crossing the channel illegally and in very frail vessels—

    Dame Diana Johnson: No, your cuts.

    The Prime Minister: The way to fix that is not just by having more civil servants, but to have a proper deterrent for the people traffickers—

    Q40 Dame Diana Johnson: I don’t think we are talking about having more, Prime Minister. We are talking about cuts.

    The Prime Minister—and to reduce the numbers of people who are being made to risk their lives.

  • Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Ukraine)

    Boris Johnson – 2022 Answers at Liaison Committee (Ukraine)

    The answers given by Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, at the Liaison Committee held in the House of Commons on 6 July 2022.

    Tom Tugendhat: Prime Minister, good afternoon. The alliance that has been brought together to dissuade Russia from further actions, and indeed to push Russia out of Donetsk and Luhansk, has clearly got a window of opportunity before the winter starts to bite and the coalition starts to fracture as energy prices in Europe rise and homes across our country start to suffer. Are you able to concentrate on building that alliance at the moment?

    The Prime Minister: Yes, and thanks, Tom. If you look at what the UK has done over the last couple of weeks, I think that the efforts of UK diplomacy, strategists, security and our armed forces have been very considerable. The G7 outcomes were at the upper end of expectations; NATO, again, probably exceeded expectations, both in the level of unity and in virtually every country around the table in NATO being determined to help President Zelensky in that window of opportunity you described.

    Q2 Tom Tugendhat: And you are seeing, of course, food prices rise around the world as the ports of Odesa are closed and Mariupol and so on are occupied. What are you doing to make sure the food is getting out from the Black sea—that such wheat as is available is able to get out? How are you supporting the United Nations, and what are you doing to prepare those states, including in the middle east and, of course, Africa, that are facing enormous food poverty, with the possibility of migration and the pressures that that will cause?

    The Prime Minister: First of all, on the grain that is being held hostage in Odesa, we are working with the UN Secretary-General, António Guterres, who is leading the negotiations. The Turks are clearly crucial: they hold the waters. What the UK is offering is both demining capabilities, including remote demining capabilities—which we are good at—and the insurance of the vessels that might be used to ferry the grain out through the Bosphorus.

    We are looking at other routes in addition to convoys through the Bosphorus. We are also doing what we can to help smaller packets of grain go through land routes, or indeed up the River Danube and out that way, and we are spending some money on upgrading the railways to that end. We are starting to see some growing quantities of grain coming out, not via the Black sea but overland and on the rivers.

    Q3 Tom Tugendhat: As you know, we are seeing enormous pressure on the weaponry that goes into Ukraine. We are seeing a lot of promises but, sadly, fewer deliveries than promised from many countries. What are you doing to increase production and co‑operation between armaments companies around Europe, and in the United States and Canada, to increase the supply?

    The Prime Minister: The UK led the way in inaugurating the Ramstein conferences, which have brought countries together to supply weaponry to Ukraine, though the Americans and I are very much in the lead on that and are certainly providing the bulk of what is going in. We will be doing more in August at the Copenhagen conference, as I am sure you know—another military donor conference.

    The supplies continue to go in. The Ukrainians are steadily getting the kind of kit that they need if they are going to expel the Russians from where they are, but it is also very important that they are trained to use the multiple launch rocket systems effectively, so that very expensive weaponry is put to good use.

    Q4 Tom Tugendhat: Your Foreign Secretary has explained that victory in Ukraine means taking back every single square inch of Ukrainian soil, including Crimea. What is your view of victory?

    The Prime Minister: We cannot be more Ukrainian than the Ukrainians. That is for them to decide. President Zelensky has set out his ambitions; it will ultimately be for him to decide what are the terms that he wants, but he has been very clear that he would like to return at least to the status quo ante 24 February.

    Q5 Tom Tugendhat: What is your view of what victory for us should look like?

    The Prime Minister: I think that victory for the Ukrainians would be a result that the Ukrainian people feel is the right one, and at the moment I think I am right in saying that 90% or more of Ukrainians believe passionately that there should be no deal that involves land for peace. They want the Russians expelled from every part of the territory that Putin has invaded.

    Q6 Tom Tugendhat: Are you confident of holding the NATO agreement—or, rather, the European and American agreement—together in making sure that that coalition sustains the Ukrainians, even when the winter prices start to bite?

    The Prime Minister: I think what was notable at Madrid was how anxieties about the friability of the coalition were proved to be unfounded. That is because the logic of the situation simply demands international unity. There is no other solution; there is no deal on offer. Even if the Ukrainians wanted to do a deal of land for peace, Putin isn’t offering any such deal. He remains utterly maximalist in his objectives. That is why we have to continue to support Zelensky in the way that we are. That’s accepted around the table.

    Q7 Tom Tugendhat: Part of your commitment to sustaining Ukrainian operations, and indeed wider British military operations, was your increase to 2.5%. Given that the various international organisations, and indeed our own statistical agencies, do not foresee any growth in the UK economy in the coming years, who are you going to take the money off in order to increase the defence budget?

    The Prime Minister: Well, I’m not certain I agree with your premise about the growth of the UK economy in the coming years. I am sure we will come to this in later sections, but both the IMF and the OECD see us going back to being at or near the top of the growth league.

    Tom Tugendhat: It’s still a percentage, rather than an absolute.

    The Prime Minister: Sure. The 2.5 is just a prediction. It is based on the—I think—reasonable assumption that we are going to have to continue with the investments we are making in the future combat aircraft system and the AUKUS agreements with the Australians and the Americans. Those are very big projects. They will be expensive, but they are the right things for the country.

    Q8 Tom Tugendhat: The last question from me will be on Sweden and Finland. Clearly, their membership of NATO is an extremely important event—not just for them, but for all of us. What are the implications for the guarding of the High North and particularly the integrity of the United Kingdom and Scotland as part of that in the Alliance? What commitments is the UK willing to make to increase co-operation with Sweden and Finland—not just in military supplies, but in training?

    Chair: As briefly as you can, please.

    The Prime Minister: We already do a lot of co-operating with the joint expeditionary force—the JEF—as you know, which is up there in the High North. The addition of Finland and Sweden is a great moment for the Alliance. I think it will strengthen the Alliance. It tells you all you need to know about Putin and his aggression that countries as peaceable as Sweden and Finland have decided to join NATO.

    Chair: Tobias Ellwood.

    Q9 Mr Ellwood: Prime Minister, it is good to see you again. We are establishing that the world is getting more dangerous; the next decade is going to be very bumpy indeed. I want to focus on UK defence capabilities. Despite the injection of £24 billion, the integrated review has seen a tilt towards cyber and space, which is welcome, but it has come at the expense of cuts to all three conventional services.

    At your last appearance before the Committee, prior to the Russian invasion, you boldly stated that tanks are not the answer to the defence of Ukraine and that “the old concepts of…tank battles on the European landmass…are over”. Prime Minister, do you now recognise the value of tanks as part of our land warfare mix? Do plans to reduce our tank numbers now need to be reviewed?

    The Prime Minister: Thank you very much, Tobias. It is certainly important for the UK to have tanks. However, what were even more valuable, for the Ukrainian purposes, were anti-tank weapons. If you look at what really changed the course of the first few weeks of the war, it was the Javelins and the NLAWs in particular that were used to destroy the tanks and make Russia’s tank warfare extremely difficult. You will have seen exactly what happened.

  • Nicola Sturgeon – 2022 Speech on the Roadmap to Scottish Independence

    Nicola Sturgeon – 2022 Speech on the Roadmap to Scottish Independence

    The speech made by Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish First Minister, on 28 June 2022.

    Presiding Officer,

    The campaign to establish this Parliament was long and hard.

    It was rooted in the belief that self-government would improve the lives of those who live here. And so it has proved.

    There were – and still are – honourable differences about the ultimate destination of Scotland’s self-government journey.

    But all who campaigned to establish this place were united in and by this fundamental principle:

    The democratic rights of the people of Scotland are paramount.

    That principle of self-determination was encapsulated by these words in the Scottish Constitutional Convention’s Claim of Right:

    “the sovereign right of the Scottish people to determine the form of government best suited to their needs.”

    When the late Canon Kenyon Wright – who led the Convention – addressed Westminster’s refusal to accept the democratic demand for a Scottish Parliament with this question:

    “What if that other voice we all know so well responds by saying, ‘We say no, and we are the state’?”

    His answer –

    “Well we say ‘yes’ – and we are the people” – was simple but powerful.

    It is as relevant now as it was then.

    Last May, the people of Scotland said Yes to an independence referendum by electing a clear majority of MSPs committed to that outcome.

    The democratic decision was clear.

    Two weeks ago, the Scottish Government started the process of implementing that decision with the first in the Building a New Scotland series of papers.

    That paper presented compelling evidence of the stronger economic and social performance, relative to the UK, of a range of independent countries across Europe that are comparable to Scotland.

    That should be both a lesson and an inspiration to us.

    Scotland – over generations – has paid a price for not being independent.

    Westminster governments we don’t vote for, imposing policies we don’t support, too often holding us back from fulfilling our potential.

    That reality has rarely been starker than it is now.

    The Conservatives have just six MPs in Scotland – barely 10 per cent of Scottish representation – and yet they have ripped us out of the EU against our will.

    They have created the worst cost of living crisis in the G7;

    And saddled us with the second lowest growth in the G20.

    They are intent on stoking industrial strife, demonizing workers and provoking a trade war.

    Businesses and public services are struggling for staff because freedom of movement has been ended.

    Our young people have been robbed of opportunity.

    Presiding Officer,

    The Scottish Government will do everything in our power to mitigate the damage.

    But that is not enough.

    Our country deserves better.

    And yet this Parliament, looked to for leadership by so many across Scotland, does not have the power to tackle the root causes of the financial misery being inflicted on millions.

    We lack the full range of levers to shape our economy and grow the country’s wealth.

    We are powerless to stop our budget being cut.

    We can’t block the Tories’ new anti-trade union laws;

    Or stop them tearing up human rights protections.

    We’re not able to restore freedom of movement.

    And while we invest billions in measures to help with the cost of living, tens of thousands of children can be pushed deeper into poverty at the merest stroke of the Chancellor’s pen.

    Presiding Officer,

    It does not have to be this way.

    Independence is about equipping ourselves to navigate the future, guided by our own values, aspirations and interests.

    It is about helping us fulfil our potential here at home and play our part in building a better world.

    And that takes more than a changing of the guard at Westminster.

    I fervently hope that the Tories lose the next election. They thoroughly deserve to.

    But on the big policy issues of our time, from Europe to migration, to human rights and fairness for workers, Labour is more a pale imitation than a genuine alternative.

    Labour won’t take Scotland back into the EU or even the single market. And neither will the Liberal Democrats.

    They won’t restore freedom of movement for our young people.

    They won’t prioritise tackling child poverty over investment in nuclear weapons.

    Presiding Officer,

    Independence won’t always be easy. It isn’t for any country.

    But it will give us the opportunity to chart our own course.

    To build a wealthier, greener, fairer nation.

    To be outward looking and internationalist.

    To lift our eyes and learn from the best.

    Presiding Officer,

    Now is the time – at this critical moment in history – to debate and decide the future of our country.

    Now is the time to get Scotland on the right path – the path chosen by those who live here.

    Now is the time for independence.

    This parliament has a clear, democratic mandate to offer Scotland that choice.

    The UK government, however, is refusing to respect Scottish democracy.

    That is why today’s statement is necessary.

    The UK and Scottish governments should be sitting down together, responsibly agreeing a process, including a section 30 order, that allows the Scottish people to decide.

    That would be the democratic way to proceed.

    It would be based on precedent.

    And it would put the legal basis of a referendum beyond any doubt.

    That’s why I am writing to the Prime Minister today to inform him of the content of this statement.

    In that letter I will also make clear that I am ready and willing to negotiate the terms of a section 30 order with him.

    Presiding Officer,

    What I am not willing to do – what I will never do – is allow Scottish democracy to be a prisoner of Boris Johnson or any Prime Minister.

    The issue of independence cannot be suppressed.

    It must be resolved democratically.

    And that must be through a process that is above reproach and commands confidence.

    That is why I am setting out today the actions the Scottish Government and the Lord Advocate will take, in the absence of a section 30 order, to secure Scotland’s right to choose.

    My determination is to secure a process that allows the people of Scotland – whether yes, no, or yet to be decided – to express their views in a legal, constitutional referendum, so that the majority view can be established fairly and democratically.

    The steps I am setting out seek to achieve that.

    They are grounded in – and demonstrate this government’s respect for – the principles of rule of law and democracy.

    Indeed, these core principles – respect for the rule of law and respect for democracy – underpin everything I say today.

    Respect for the rule of law means that a referendum must be lawful.

    That, for me, is a matter of principle.

    But it is also a matter of practical reality.

    An unlawful referendum would not be deliverable.

    Even if it was, it would lack effect.

    The outcome would not be recognized by the international community.

    Bluntly, it would not lead to Scotland becoming independent.

    Presiding Officer,

    It is axiomatic that a referendum must be lawful.

    But my deliberations in recent times have led me to a further conclusion.

    The lawfulness or otherwise of the referendum must be established as a matter of fact, not just opinion.

    Otherwise – as we have seen again in recent days – opposition parties will just keep casting doubt on the legitimacy of the process, so they can avoid the substantive debate on independence which Scotland deserves, but they so clearly fear.

    That is not in the country’s best interests.

    Let me turn then to the detail of the steps we will now take to secure the objective of an indisputably lawful referendum.

    And then ensure that, from today, we can focus on the substance of why Scotland should be independent.

    Presiding Officer,

    I can announce, first of all, that the Scottish Government is today publishing the ‘Scottish Independence Referendum Bill’.

    I will draw attention, in particular, to three key provisions of the Bill.

    Firstly, the purpose of the referendum, as set out in section 1, is to ascertain the views of the people of Scotland on whether or not Scotland should be an independent country.

    In common with the 2014 referendum – indeed, in common with the Brexit referendum and the referendum to establish this Parliament – the independence referendum proposed in the Bill will be consultative, not self-executing.

    Just as in 2014 – and recognised explicitly in the 2013 White Paper – a majority yes vote in this referendum will not in and of itself make Scotland independent.

    For Scotland to become independent following a yes vote, legislation would have to be passed by the UK and Scottish Parliaments.

    There has been much commentary in recent days to the effect that a consultative referendum would not have the same status as the vote in 2014.

    That is simply wrong, factually and legally.

    The status of the referendum proposed in this Bill is exactly the same as the referendums of 1997, 2014 and 2016.

    The next provision of the Bill I wish to draw attention to relates to the question to be asked in the referendum.

    The Bill states that the question on the ballot paper should be – just as it was in 2014 – ‘should Scotland be an independent country’.

    Finally, Presiding Officer, the Bill includes the proposed date on which the referendum should be held.

    In line with the government’s clear mandate this is a date within the first half of this term of Parliament.

    Presiding Officer,

    I can announce that the Scottish Government is proposing that the independence referendum be held on Thursday the 19th of October 2023.

    These are the key elements of the referendum legislation that the Scottish Government wishes this Parliament to scrutinise and pass.

    Let me turn now to the aim of establishing as fact the lawfulness of a referendum – which, as I have already indicated, I consider to be of the utmost importance.

    I will start with what we know already.

    We know that the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament to pass this Bill in the absence of a section 30 order is contested.

    We know that legislative competence can only be determined judicially.

    And we know that for as long as there is no judicial determination, opinions will differ and doubt will continue to be cast on the lawful basis for the referendum.

    That benefits only those parties opposed to independence, because it allows them to avoid the substance of the independence debate

    Finally, we know that if this Parliament does seek to legislate without a section 30 order, the Bill will go to court.

    That is inevitable.

    The only questions are: when it ends up in court, and at whose hand.

    If the issue of legislative competence remains unresolved at the point of formal introduction of a Bill, the UK Government will almost certainly use section 33 of the Scotland Act to refer it to the Supreme Court after it has passed.

    It is also possible that one or more private individuals will lodge a judicial review of the Bill.

    Indeed, it was reported last week that Tory supporters are already planning to do so.

    A challenge by private individuals could also go through successive courts, and so be a very lengthy process.

    Either way, at the point of Parliament passing the Bill, there would be no certainty about when, or even if, it could be implemented.

    A court challenge would still lie ahead and the timetable I have set out today would quickly become difficult to deliver.

    And, of course, between now and then, claim and counter claim, good faith arguments and bad faith fearmongering about so-called ‘wildcat referendums’ will continue to muddy the water, cast up doubt and taint the process.

    Presiding Officer,

    That may well suit politicians opposed to independence.

    But none of it would be in the interests of the country.

    And none of it would serve democracy.

    The fact is neither legal opinions nor political arguments will resolve this point.

    We must establish legal fact.

    That is why, in my view, we must seek now to accelerate to the point when we have legal clarity; legal fact.

    And crucially, in doing so – I hope – establish and safeguard the ability of this Parliament to deliver a referendum on the date proposed.

    Presiding Officer,

    It is to this end that some weeks ago I asked the Lord Advocate to consider exercising the power she has under paragraph 34 of schedule 6 to the Scotland Act to refer to the Supreme Court the question of whether the provisions in this Bill relate to reserved matters.

    This is a power exercisable by the Lord Advocate alone, not by Scottish Ministers collectively.

    Whether or not she does so is accordingly a matter solely for her.

    However, I can confirm that the Lord Advocate has considered this request.

    She has taken into account the following factors:

    This government’s democratic mandate;

    The constitutional significance of this issue;

    The fact that the Bill does raise a genuine issue of law that is unresolved; and

    The importance of ensuring that this government and Parliament act lawfully at all times.

    And she has now informed me of her decision.

    I can advise Parliament that the Lord Advocate has agreed to make a reference of the provisions in the Bill to the Supreme Court.

    Indeed – as I speak, Presiding Officer – the process for serving the requisite paperwork on the UK Government by lawyers and Messengers at Arms is underway.

    I can confirm that the reference will be filed with the Supreme Court this afternoon.

    Presiding Officer,

    Whether or not the reference is accepted, how long it takes to determine, and what judgement is arrived at, are all matters for the Court to determine.

    I accept that.

    As I have made clear throughout, this government respects the rule of law.

    However, by asking the Lord Advocate to refer the matter to the Court now – rather than wait for others to do so later – we are seeking to deliver clarity and legal certainty in a timely manner, and without the delay and continued doubt that others would prefer.

    Presiding Officer,

    Obviously, it is this government’s hope that the question in this Bill, proposing a referendum that is consultative, not self-executing, and which would seek to ascertain the views of the Scottish people for or against independence, will be deemed to be within the legislative competence of this Parliament.

    If that outcome is secured, there will be no doubt whatsoever that the referendum is lawful.

    And I can confirm that the government will then introduce and ask Parliament to pass the Bill on a timescale that allows the referendum to proceed on xxx

    Presiding Officer,

    It is, of course, possible that the Supreme Court will decide that the Scottish Parliament does not have power to legislate for even a consultative referendum.

    To be clear: if that happens, it will be the fault of Westminster legislation, not the Court.

    Obviously, that would not be the clarity we hope for.

    But if that is what the law establishing this Parliament really means, it is better to have that clarity sooner rather than later.

    Because what it will clarify is this:

    Any notion of the UK as a voluntary union of nations is a fiction.

    Any suggestion that the UK is a partnership of equals is false.

    Instead we will be confronted with this reality.

    No matter how Scotland votes, regardless of what future we desire for our country, Westminster can block and overrule. Westminster will always have the final say.

    Presiding Officer,

    There would be few stronger or more powerful arguments for independence than that.

    And it would not be the end of the matter. Far from it.

    I said earlier that two principles would guide what I said today.

    The rule of law and democracy.

    Democracy demands that people must have their say.

    So, finally in terms of process, let me confirm this – although it describes a scenario that I hope does not arise.

    If it does transpire that there is no lawful way for this parliament to give the people of Scotland the choice of independence in a referendum – and if the UK government continues to deny a section 30 order – my party will fight the UK general election on this single question –

    ‘Should Scotland be an independent country’.

    Presiding Officer,

    The path I have laid out today is about bringing clarity and certainty to this debate.

    Above all, it is about ensuring that Scotland will have its say on independence.

    I want the process set in train today to lead to a lawful, constitutional referendum and for that to take place on xxx

    That is what we are preparing for.

    But if the law says that is not possible, the General Election will be a ‘de facto’ referendum.

    Either way, the people of Scotland will have their say.

    Presiding Officer,

    As the Lord Advocate is now referring the question of legality to the Supreme Court, it need no longer be the subject of sterile political debate.

    Indeed, the sub judice principle and our own Standing Orders demand that the arguments on competence now be made in court and not here in this chamber.

    That means we can – and should – now focus on the substance.

    That is what this government intends to do.

    In the weeks and months ahead, we will make the positive case for independence.

    We will do so with commitment, confidence and passion.

    Let the opposition – if they can – make the case for continued Westminster rule.

    And, then, let the people decide.

    Presiding Officer,

    To believe in Scottish independence is to believe in a better future.

    It involves an unashamedly optimistic view of the world.

    The belief that things can be better than they are now.

    Above all, it means trusting the talents and ingenuity of all of us who live here, no matter where we come from.

    It is not a claim to be better than anyone else.

    It is about looking around at all the other successful, independent countries in the world – so many of them smaller than we are and without the resources we are blessed with – and asking, ‘why not Scotland?’

    Think of all of our talents and advantages –

    Unrivalled energy resources;

    Extraordinary natural heritage;

    Exceptional strengths in the industries of the future;

    Brilliant universities and colleges;

    A highly skilled and creative population.

    There is no reason at all that an independent Scotland would not succeed.

    Nothing in life is guaranteed.

    But with hard work – and the independence to chart our own course – Scotland will prosper.

    And the people of Scotland have told us – all of us in this chamber – that they want the right to decide.

    Today we have set out the path to deliver it.

  • Volodymyr Zelenskyy – 2022 Statement to European Council after Ukraine Given Candidate Membership

    Volodymyr Zelenskyy – 2022 Statement to European Council after Ukraine Given Candidate Membership

    The statement made by Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the President of Ukraine, on 23 June 2022.

    Greetings to all our friends, all leaders-friends of Ukraine!

    Greetings to all who support freedom!

    That is how I began my address to the European Council on March 24, three months ago, when I urged you to support us.

    And that’s quite a path we have come in these three months! All of us together: Ukraine, your states and the European Union as a whole.

    This path is not politics. I believe this is what will always be the starting point of Europe’s new history. Europe without division. Europe without “gray” zones. Europe that is truly united and that knows how to defend itself, its values, its future.

    Today you have adopted one of the most important decisions for Ukraine in all 30 years of independence of our state.

    However, I believe this decision is not only for Ukraine. This is the biggest step towards strengthening Europe that could be taken right now, in our time and in such difficult conditions, when the Russian war is testing our ability to preserve freedom and unity.

    On the fifth day of Russia’s full-scale war against Ukraine, we applied to join the European Union. We provided extremely fast and high-quality answers to the questionnaire we received from the European Commission.

    And here is the desired result today. Today, I would like to reaffirm that Ukraine is capable of becoming a full-fledged member of the European Union.

    Then, three months ago, I addressed each country of the European Union and indicated at what stage we were, as I thought, in our relations. And today I would like to tell each and every one of you personally what our people feel, and in the same order as it was then.

    Lithuania stands for us. Thank you, Mr. President! Gitanas, you know how grateful Ukraine is to your people and to you personally.

    Latvia stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! I believe that together we will be able to strengthen the international legal order.

    Estonia stands for us. Thank you, Mrs. Prime Minister Kallas! By helping one, we help everyone. Estonia has done a lot.

    Poland stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! Your state, your people, your President – all of you on this path to Europe are truly brothers with us.

    France stands for us. Thank you, Emmanuel! You can be sure that with Ukraine, Europe will really be able to be among the global leaders in the XXI century.

    Slovenia stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! I am grateful for the unwavering protection of the common European cause.

    Slovakia stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! We have to continue to protect each other, it makes us really strong.

    The Czech Republic stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! I believe that we will also be together on the path to Ukraine’s full membership in the EU.

    Romania stands for us. Thank you, Mr. President! Klaus, our cooperation in the region and in European structures can indeed become one of the foundations of global stability.

    Bulgaria stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! Thank you for choosing the side of good in the confrontation that began on February 24 without hesitation. We know it’s not easy for you.

    Greece stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! And I’m personally thankful to the Greek people, your country, which I really love.

    Germany stands for us. Thank you, Olaf! Thank you for your support at a crucial moment.

    Portugal stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! Your country knows our people well. And I am sure that we will only increase positive ties between us.

    Croatia stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! And thank you for the help with the experience we use to protect our freedom.

    Sweden stands for us. Thank you, Mrs. Prime Minister! Blue and yellow truly always stand together!

    Finland stands for us. Thank you, Mrs. Prime Minister! Your willingness to resist aggression is simply amazing!

    The Netherlands stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! You can be sure that your choice of Ukraine will definitely strengthen our common European freedom, the rule of law and our unity in diversity.

    Malta stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! The voice of your island makes the European community complete.

    Denmark stands for us. Thank you, Mrs. Prime Minister! Be sure that the protection of European values will only increase with Ukraine.

    Luxembourg stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! We truly understand each other, and your energy inspires us to future victories.

    Cyprus stands for us. Thank you, Mr. President! Thank you for the choice in favor of our people and our values.

    Italy stands for us. Thank you very much, Mr. Prime Minister! Thank you for your strength, for your perseverance. Thank you for proving that the principles of decent people are truly the foundation of Europe.

    Spain stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! I believe that we can significantly strengthen our relations.

    Belgium stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! We hope that after our victory we will be able to see each other often in Brussels on common European affairs.

    Austria stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Chancellor! I am convinced that we will be able to make Europe even safer and historically the most stable.

    Ireland stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister! This is a historic rapprochement of our nations. Your personal leadership is truly impressive.

    Hungary stands for us. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister, thank you, Viktor, together we are capable of much more than alone!

    Mrs. President of the European Parliament Roberta Metsola! We are grateful to you personally and grateful to the European Parliament! You were the first to support Ukraine’s candidate status the day after our application.

    Mr. President of the European Council, dear Charles, Mrs. President of the European Commission, dear Ursula, I am grateful to you both for the leadership that has led us all to this day. I am grateful for the sincere help, for the faith in Ukraine, in Ukrainians, in all of us.

    I have always said that we, Ukrainians, believe in the European Union. Although we remained formally outside the European Union, our country probably had the largest number of flags of a united Europe.

    They were in the hands of our people during the revolutions. They have been in the hands of our people in the trenches since 2014. I believe that the flag of the European Union will be in every Ukrainian city that we have yet to liberate from the occupation of the Russian Federation.

    Ukrainian and European flags will also be together when we will be rebuilding our state after this war together.

    And today in the framework of our joint meeting – the summit of all European leaders, I would like to express special gratitude to our heroes – each and everyone who defends the independence of Ukraine with weapons in their hands, defends the freedom of Europe.

    Thank you! Thank you for making possible a new history of Ukraine, a new history of Europe – even stronger, even freer.

    Thank you all so much!

    Glory to Ukraine!

  • Volodymyr Zelenskyy – 2022 Statement on the Situation in Ukraine (22/06/2022) – 119 days

    Volodymyr Zelenskyy – 2022 Statement on the Situation in Ukraine (22/06/2022) – 119 days

    The statement made by Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the President of Ukraine, on 22 June 2022.

    Ukrainians!

    Our defenders!

    Today, June 22, is the Day of Mourning and Remembrance of the Victims of War. That war. A war that was to remain forever in the history of the XX century and was never to be repeated. But it is repeated.

    Today there is no shortage of words that Russia did the same on February 24 as the Nazis did on June 22. Much has been said about this. And I want to add only one thing. Then 1418 days passed from the morning of the invasion to the defeat of the aggressor. We must liberate our land and achieve victory, but faster. Much faster. This is our national goal, and we must work to achieve it on a daily basis. Not only the state, but also every citizen – at the level at which it is possible.

    From the very morning I continued the telephone marathon for a positive decision on the candidacy for Ukraine. 11 leaders today.

    Bulgaria. I thanked Prime Minister of Bulgaria Petkov for supporting Ukraine and the development of the whole of Europe with our participation.

    Latvia. We discussed with Mr. Prime Minister Kariņš the cooperation between our countries, between Ukraine and the European Union, as well as our joint opportunities to protect Europe from the crises that Russia organizes, including the food crisis.

    Greece. I was glad to hear the words of sincere support for Ukraine. Mr. Prime Minister and I have the same vision of the historical significance of the decision that is expected from the European Council.

    Sweden. Prospects for bilateral cooperation and cooperation at the level of European structures were discussed with Prime Minister Andersson.

    Estonia. Thanked Mrs. Prime Minister Kallas for her continued support of Ukraine. The priorities of our cooperation and the agenda in the context of the NATO Summit in Madrid next week were discussed.

    Czech Republic. Fruitful conversation with Mr. Prime Minister Fiala. The priorities of the Czech presidency of the Council of the European Union in the next six months were discussed. And now I am sure that the voice of the Czech Republic is in favor of Ukraine.

    Belgium. I thanked Mr. Prime Minister De Croo for supporting our European perspective and invited him to visit Ukraine. I hope that Belgium will take a significant part in the post-war reconstruction of our country.

    Austria. I am grateful to Chancellor Nehammer for the political and humanitarian support, for understanding the needs of Ukraine. We can do a lot to develop relations between our states.

    Slovenia. We agreed with Mr. Prime Minister Golob that we can strengthen cooperation between our countries. I thanked him for the consistent support of the candidacy for Ukraine.

    Moldova. I spoke with President Sandu. We supported each other on the eve of an important meeting of the European Council. And we will help each other to complete this path to the European Union faster.

    Today I spoke again with President of Lithuania Gitanas Nausėda. I expressed full support to him over the situation around the Kaliningrad region of Russia.

    Tomorrow I will continue this marathon – we must provide maximum support to our state. We expect a key European decision tomorrow night.

    The occupiers struck at Mykolaiv, seven missiles. Fortunately, no one was killed. Five people were injured. There were strikes at the Kharkiv region as well. There are casualties. There were strikes at the borders of the Chernihiv and Sumy regions.

    In Donbas there are massive air and artillery strikes. The goal of the occupiers in this direction remains the same – they want to destroy the whole Donbas step by step. Entire. Lysychansk, Slovyansk, Kramatorsk – they aim to turn any city into Mariupol. Completely ruined.

    That is why we repeatedly emphasize the acceleration of weapons supplies to Ukraine. Parity is needed on the battlefield as soon as possible to stop this devilish armada and move it beyond the borders of Ukraine.

    I am grateful to the United States for its assistance in investigating war crimes in Ukraine. I am grateful to Mr. Eli Rosenbaum for his willingness to join in the establishment of justice – he is one of those American investigators who managed to expose many Nazis. Our joint investigation team must be as strong as possible so that none of the Russian criminals avoid punishment. And this will be one of the largest contributions to the protection of international law and order of our time. Just as September 1, 1939 and June 22, 1941 ended in Nuremberg trials, February 24, 2022 must end in a fair tribunal. Russia must be held accountable for all the evil it has brought to Ukraine.

    Today I signed a new decree on awarding our heroes. 195 combatants were awarded state awards, 17 of them posthumously.

    Eternal memory to all whose lives were taken by the occupiers!

    Eternal glory to everyone who fights for Ukraine!

    We are preparing for the historic decision of the European Council, there are only a few hours left.

    Glory to Ukraine!